Public Project Meeting - April 22, 2021

Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings, here is the timeline of the meeting held on April 22, 2021,5:30 PM CET. (Below times are on IST)

Meetings are held on the #selenium-tlc channel on Selenium Slack.

Diego Molina 9:02 PM

pinging @simonstewart @AutomatedTester @harsha509 @Puja Jagani @jimevans @barancev @manoj9788 @mmerrell @titusfortner @p0deje

Simon Stewart 9:02 PM

I’m going to be at SauceCon

9:02 PM

Things I want for beta 4:

Diego Molina 9:02 PM

and whoever else is around :slightly_smiling_face:

9:03 PM

General project statistics

• Previous meeting: 163 open issues, 24 open pull requests
• Currently: 157 open issues, 25 open pull requests

Simon Stewart 9:03 PM

Things I want for beta 4:

• Refresh the NewSessionQueue
• Stress test the new Grid on AWS or similar with >50 simultaneous tests
• Check that the Redis/JDBC backed services actually function

Diego Molina 9:06 PM

Next topic:

• Pending work for the 4th Beta?
• Server - Grid
• Pipe VNC connectors through the WebSocket plumbing for live video
• Investigate: Grid gets stuck when screenshot is taken in a terminated session
• Investigate: Grid gets stuck when the browser driver process cannot be killed
• Investigate: Router request timeouts when forwarding command to Node
• Unify new Session Queue
• Stress test the new Grid on AWS or similar with >50 simultaneous tests
• Check that the Redis/JDBC backed services actually function
• More than 1 IE session per Node? https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9388

Language bindings

• “se:cdpVersion” is missing in C#, Java and JS
• Can all bindings do CDP over Grid?
• What are the features present in Selenium 4?
• Do all bindings implement them?

Simon Stewart 9:06 PM

The “unify new session queue” is mostly done, I think

9:07 pm

(Famous last words)

Diego Molina 9:07 PM

That is the PR you sent, which we will work with @Puja Jagani, I believe

Luke Hill 9:07 PM

Someone (In fact a couple), were asking me about the alphas / betas. And they were asking more along the lines of are we expecting a whole host of them like we had for v3.

9:08 PM

I gave them the whole spiel - We don’t do release timelines e.t.c. But figured I’d ask here if anyone has a finger in air idea.

Diego Molina 9:08 PM

For the Grid work, I am taking the items related to “investigate”

9:09 PM

But I wanted to ask folks here, what do you think about “More than 1 IE session per Node? https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9388”

Titus Fortner 9:10 PM

@luke tell them it doesn’t matter and if they are only using the bindings they should already have updated. The only stuff really being worked on at this point is grid functionality and adding in the various new features from w3c spec, etc There is no technological advantage to sticking with 3.x at this point

Luke Hill 9:10 PM

That went against all advice and articles published that explicitly stated “Do not use more than 1 IE session per node” @diemol

David Burns 9:10 PM

re: se:cdpVersion, it’s easy to add but I noticed we never use the versions, we seem to use the latest one

Diego Molina 9:10 PM

Some people are complaining they cannot run more than one test per Node, which we recommend against Because they have been able to do it. The code change is small, and I believe we should let them, with the caveat of “you are on your own here”

Luke Hill 9:11 PM

Do we know when/where this restriction came in? With an accompanying PR?

Diego Molina 9:11 PM

IE restriction? Since the moment zero Grid 4 was built

Simon Stewart 9:12 PM

@AutomatedTester the java bindings should be using the version

David Burns 9:12 PM

@simonstewart sorry, meant JS

JS bindings only use latest…

David Burns 9:12 PM

@simonstewart sorry, meant JS

9:13 PM

JS bindings only use latest…

Diego Molina 9:14 PM

@AutomatedTester I believe it has not been implemented in C# and JS (I need to double check Java)

David Burns 9:14 PM

JS doesn’t need it… yet without a bit of rearchitecting

I, or @Puja Jagani since she has been dabbling in .NET, can do the c# ones

or @jimevans obvs

Diego Molina 9:15 PM

I believe the idea is to use the “right” CDP version depending on the browser version, so it’d be nice if JS has it

David Burns 9:16 PM

maybe @harsha509 has time to look into it

Sri Harsha 9:17 PM

it requires rewriting the CDP in JS. i will look into it then.

Diego Molina 9:17 PM

that’d be amazing

cool, so I believe we need to work a bit on the pending items and see where we are in two weeks :slightly_smiling_face:

Titus Fortner 9:18 PM

From a bugs standpoint, #9359 is an absolute blocker for Sauce users to move to Selenium 4, but @Puja Jagani is helping confirm it.

Would be nice to at least know what is going on before next release

Diego Molina 9:20 PM

I think we have enough time to figure that one out

Simon Stewart 9:20 PM

The reproducible test case is helpful

Titus Fortner 9:20 PM

yeah, should have done that from the start

Diego Molina 9:20 PM

I wonder if someone asked @titusfortner for a reproducible test case :smile:

Titus Fortner 9:21 PM

tbf I did put exactly what needed to go into the POM

9:21 PM

I just didn’t create a whole project that can be cloned to see the issue

Diego Molina 9:21 PM

anyway, we could move to the last topic for today, the IDE

9:21 PM

Selenium IDE

• Who knows what the release process is?
• What is needed?
• Who can help reviewing pull requests?

Sri Harsha 9:22 PM

By beta 4, i will be resolving JS api docs too. May be i can pass it to @diemol for review and upload

Diego Molina 9:22 PM

What is needed for a release*

Diego Molina 9:23 PM

@Todd Tarsi is here and they want to contribute, so it would be nice to give them a hand

David Burns 9:23 PM

if @corevo or @tourdedave have documented the release process I think I have some of the keys to do it

Diego Molina 9:23 PM

I can check if it is documented, else reach out to them

Todd Tarsi 9:23 PM

Hi all, yep if I can help in any way, please let me. I’ve been doing selenium ide stuff since it was UI with zanarkand (is that the right name?) back in the day

Diego Molina 9:24 PM

We need the keys for the 3 stores, right? Edge, Chrome and Firefox

9:25 PM

we should also update the docs to mention it is available in Edge

Todd Tarsi 9:27 PM

I can PR simple docs changes if we want.

Diego Molina 9:27 PM

cool

so we will check what is needed to properly test and release the IDE, and we will post here in #selenium-tlc

thanks for showing interest, @Todd Tarsi

ok, I think that is all for today, right?

does anyone have an extra topic?

seems not, thank you everyone!

(and thanks @harsha509 for publishing the notes to our blog :slightly_smiling_face:)