Public Project Meeting - January 28, 2021

Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings, here is the timeline of the meeting held on January 28, 2021,5:30 PM CET.(Below times are on IST)

Meetings are held on the #selenium-tlc channel on Selenium Slack.

Diego Molina 9:17 PM

Yes, here is the short agenda:

• General project statistics (Previous meeting: 262 open issues, 54 open PRs, Current: 252, 35 PRs)
• Overall announcements? New people on committees, with the commit bit, etc?
• Pending work that needs to be done for the first Beta?
• CoC, next steps?

Alexei Barantsev 9:44 PM

can the Bot drop the meeting link to the chat, please, I always forget where to get it…

Diego Molina 9:53 PM

this is the written one

Alexei Barantsev 9:58 PM

awesome! I’m in yet I have nothing to add to the agenda

Diego Molina 10:01 PM

sounds good I’ll ping people around and we can wait a couple of minutes, Simon said he was going to be slightly late

10:02 PM

@titusfortner @jimevans @mmerrell @manoj9788 @AutomatedTester @harsha509 @luke

Jim Evans 10:03 PM

i’m not going to be able to make the video chat, but i can contribute here if people have questions. the only thing missing from .NET for beta1 is making CDP work via remote, which i don’t think needs to be in beta1 for .NET.

Diego Molina 10:06 PM

this is just the written one, the video chat is just to hangout, that one is next week

Marcus Merrell 10:06 PM

no status chance on the Chicago conference at this point - still looking at COVID numbers to determine whether or not it’s going to be feasible

David Burns 10:07 PM

here! sorry

Diego Molina 10:07 PM

Marcus are we still looking into an online event, Marcus?

Marcus Merrell 10:07 PM

we can look into that haven’t been to this point

Diego Molina 10:08 PM

I only ask because (I think) it was mentioned last time ok, perhaps we can start, the first topic is: Overall announcements? New people on committees, with the commit bit, etc?

10:10 PM

Aside from @luke joining recently, there are no more things to announce, right?

Sri Harsha 10:10 PM

I think luke joined recently!

Simon Stewart 10:10 PM

Nothing that I can think off

Alexei Barantsev 10:12 PM

I support @diemol’s appeal to focus attention to the issue tracker. let’s try to clean it up in view of the forthcoming v.4 release

10:13

close all outdated issues and PRs, apply everything that worth applying

Diego Molina 10:13 PM

the work done during the recent week on the issue tracker has been great, hopefully we keep that going

10:14 PM

we could jump into the next topic perhaps… Pending work that needs to be done for the first Beta? here is the list I have from the last meeting

10:15 PM

Client facing changes:

• Make relative locators return elements sorted by proximity
• Fix Java Module System problems (I think @simonstewart did this already)
• Allow locator strategies to be pluggable Enable fallbacks for commands

Server changes:

• Enable retries of commands where necessary using failsafe
• Get the Grid UI looking nice, and returning useful data (@diemol is working on this)
• Allow locator strategies to be pluggable
• Pipe VNC connectors through the websocket plumbing for live video

Simon Stewart 10:15 PM

Relative locators now sort by proximity I think the Java Module stuff is working I’m working on fallbacks for locators

Alexei Barantsev 10:15 PM

I can confirm that java 9 modules are usable now

Simon Stewart 10:16 PM

Locator strategies are pluggable on the server side Once I get the locator strategies falling back on the local end, I’m fine with shipping the beta

Diego Molina 10:17 PM

we had some issue reports related to the Grid, in most of the cases it is a matter of showing the correct information on the UI and I am working on that

Simon Stewart 10:18 PM

Also there’s a nasty issue with starting a large number of sessions concurrently

Diego Molina 10:18 PM

yeah, I was going to point that one out, https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9112 I have not had time to research enough, but most of the results when googling point to: either we are creating too many Netty clients or something is wrong with the way the client is created

David Burns 10:20 PM

Feel free to pull in @Puja Jagani on the sessions one, I know she was looking at one about starting up a grid and things not working

10:20 PM

(can’t remember the issue #)

Diego Molina 10:20 PM

that’d be great, I can sync with @Puja Jagani later what do you all estimate for a beta release? 3-4 weeks?

Simon Stewart 10:21 PM

Maybe less

Diego Molina 10:23 PM

ok, I think we do not have more things pending for beta 1? the only topic left is the CoC New

Titus Fortner 10:24 PM

Is this a good time/forum to ask about wiki/docs?

Diego Molina 10:24 PM

always

Titus Fortner 10:25 PM

Diego pointed me at a couple issues @AutomatedTester created for docs & wiki cleanup things did we have an idea for what we want in the language specific wiki page vs in the docs; and user vs developer focused? The Ruby wiki stuff is way out of date, not even just Selenium 4 things :) just want to know where we should be cleaning it up to

Diego Molina 10:28 PM

are those two different things? language specific things and dev docs? (people who want to contribute to Selenium, what technical steps to follow?)

David Burns 10:28 PM

CoC is still waiting on SFC. New

Titus Fortner 10:29 PM

What we did with Watir was to make the wiki about things devs need to know about the project building/deploying, etc and everything user related went into the documentation oh, heh, looks like we ended up deleting the wiki and sending everything to the website

Diego Molina 10:32 PM

Why do we need a language bindings specific things on the user docs? Do they differ too much on how they work?

Titus Fortner 10:33 PM

So our current documentation has tabs to show the examples in each of the languages the wiki is currently just a big page of examples for using Ruby Selenium (https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/wiki/Ruby-Bindings)

10:37

I guess I haven’t spent much time with the docs anyway, so maybe I should play around and see what makes sense. Didn’t know if anyone else had opinions on any of it. :) Guess not

Diego Molina 10:38 PM

ah ok, that Wiki seems to be duplicating the user docs but some parts of the Wiki could evolve to be part of the user docs

Titus Fortner 10:39 PM

yeah, it’s 2 approaches to organization as well; here’s everything in ruby, vs here’s everything, click the tab for each to see the ruby.

Diego Molina 10:39 PM

I think the 2nd could work well someone needs to take the time and take the contents of that Wiki and put them in the docs

Titus Fortner 10:39 PM

I’ll take a look at what might make sense since now that I no longer have any looming work pressing things for the first time in forever

Diego Molina 10:40 PM

cool thank you

I think that was it for today, right?

Thank you everyone!