Public Project Meeting - March 11, 2021

Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings…


Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings, here is the timeline of the meeting held on March 11, 2021,5:30 PM CET. (Below times are on IST)

Meetings are held on the #selenium-tlc channel on Selenium Slack.


Diego Molina 9:59 PM

Hopefully it will be a brief one :slightly_smiling_face: pinging folks for the public project meeting… @AutomatedTester @harsha509 @titusfortner @mmerrell @jimevans @simonstewart @barancev @luke

10:01

Agenda for today:

  • General project statistics
  • Anything new to report from the last PLC/SFC call?
  • CoC, next steps?
  • Pending work that needs to be done for the second Beta?

if you have any more topics, please feel free to add them

Titus Fortner 10:02 PM

:wave:

Sri Harsha 10:02 PM

:wave:

Diego Molina 10:03 PM

ok, let’s start slowly while people join… first topic is:

  • General project statistics

Previous meeting: 234 open issues, 32 open PRs Current: 202, 32 PRs

10:04

Again, really great work lowering the number of open issues!

Diego Molina 10:05 PM

What I see in the open issues, every now and then, is a few feature requests.

I think it’d be helpful to give some feedback on them at some point

Titus Fortner 10:05 PM

I need to remember not to add PRs until after the meeting :)

Diego Molina 10:06 PM

for now, I am closing a few feature requests because they are not aligned at all with Selenium or because no one has commented in over 1.5 years

10:07

ok, let’s move to the next topic Anything new to report from the last PLC/SFC call?

10:08

@mmerrell @barancev @simonstewart @manoj9788 @jimevans

Simon Stewart 10:08 PM

Nothing major. @mmerrell was going to chat with the SFC about the Coc

Diego Molina 10:08 PM

perfect, that was the next topic, CoC :slightly_smiling_face:

do we know what we can do to speed the process a bit? We had an incident in the past few days where a CoC would be helpful https://groups.google.com/g/selenium-users/c/bpeUO9vAa2A

10:10

Could we add the https://www.contributor-covenant.org/ as a start and then iterate on it when the SFC has time?

Marcus Merrell 10:10 PM

that chat happened, and Karen is supposed to reach out to the contractor - I haven’t pinged her in a week, but I can do that

Diego Molina 10:11 PM

thank you, @mmerrell!

David Burns 10:11 PM

I think we can just copy what Sage did from their repos

Diego Molina 10:11 PM

that is also a good idea to have a place to start

David Burns 10:11 PM

yea

10:11

and I think we can have the odd hour from Sage to process it since they work for the SFC now

Diego Molina 10:12 PM

I forgot about that, I’d say we can do that

10:13

what do the other folks think?

Simon Stewart 10:13 PM

I’m okay with that

Marcus Merrell 10:14 PM

I’m fine with it… I simply can’t believe it’s been a year

David Burns 10:16 PM

tbf… I could have pushed harder but since I am with ${employer} that can be hard to find time

Marcus Merrell 10:16 PM

I’m in the same boat, but it’s unreasonable that we have to push this hard as far as I know, we’re a top revenue driver for the SFC, and asking a lawyer to do an hour of lawyering does not seem unreasonable

but we aren’t in a position to make a big change here, so I’ll keep pressing where I can

Diego Molina 10:18 PM

absolutely, at least it feels that we can have a CoC soon by following this path

do you still have the docs Sage gave us, @AutomatedTester?

Marcus Merrell 10:19 PM

if we get that, do we still need to go through the SFC and everything?

David Burns 10:19 PM

I am sure I do

Diego Molina 10:19 PM

I think we still need an expert on the field to help us refine the edges so we are sure we have something good in place

Marcus Merrell 10:19 PM

ok, good

10:20

I just pinged KS

David Burns 10:20 PM

at worst I can take Sage’s repos and just cobble something together

Diego Molina 10:20 PM

perfect, that’d be great

ok, perhaps we can move to the next topic?

  • Pending work that needs to be done for the second Beta?

Titus Fortner 10:24 PM

we’re as good on grid as we’re going to get without changing the underlying http client, right?

Diego Molina 10:24 PM

ok, so this is what I have about that: Server changes:

  • Pipe VNC connectors through the websocket plumbing for live video (nice to have for Beta 2, not a must)
  • Return CDP url by using the Grid url (nice to have for Beta 2, not a must)
  • Allow timeout, cleanupCycle to be configured in Grid (this is about allowing users configure some timeouts, @Puja Jagani did a part of it already, the rest seems simple, but not a must for Beta 2)

Things left in Java, Python, JS, Ruby, C#?

  • Using se:cdpVersion

yes, about the http client, I’d say so, but we will know more after people use beta 2

Titus Fortner 10:25 PM

is there a reason we can’t release 2 right away and do the rest for 3?

there are a few things in the Ruby code I want to be able to start using

I’m assuming there have been enough improvements elsewhere to justify a new release?

Would be nice to have more smaller releases so long as code/tests are in a good shape

Diego Molina 10:27 PM

I also have the feeling that the major issue was the Grid memory usage, which we adjusted by having a single http client instance everything else seems to be small adjustments, some could happen for beta 2 and the rest for beta 3

Simon Stewart 10:27 PM

I think so

I’m fine with no getting the se:cdpVersion stuff in before we push the next beta

10:28

Also on my list before 4.0 is getting script pinning using CDP up and running

That feels somewhat gnarly

Diego Molina 10:30 PM

sounds good, so maybe let’s sync during the next days to see when we can release beta 2 (as in, when people are around to give their input as well)

David Burns 10:30 PM

It sounds like there is nothing left to do…

Diego Molina 10:30 PM

we need to fix the javadocs

David Burns 10:31 PM

yes!

Diego Molina 10:31 PM

(maybe that is the most important issue for now :slightly_smiling_face:)

David Burns 10:32 PM

definitely the most important issue

Diego Molina 10:33 PM

ok, I think that was the meeting for today, do we have anything else we’d like to discuss?

David Burns 10:33 PM

nope

Sri Harsha 10:33 PM

we need to update JS doc too

https://www.selenium.dev/selenium/docs/api/javascript/index.html

Diego Molina 10:34 PM

true, while checking old issues, there are 3-4 we could close by updating the docs

ok, so let’s wrap today’s meeting with that, thank you everyone!